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Sunday, October 16, 2011
Thursday, October 13, 2011
"Fields of Faith" for Paranoid Christians Only
The "Fellowship" of Christian Athletes came up with idea to take over an athletic field in order to prosletyze and call it a "community" event to get around the Religion Clause. One such event took place in lovely Muncie, Indiana today. I didn't go.
According to a spokesperson who was quoted in the local paper, I was welcome. You don't have to be an athlete to come to this. Well, duh... it's not an athletic event, it just rents an athletic field so it can have a cool name. It could just as well be a tent meeting.
They make sure that students run it, so they can split that hair and stay out of legal trouble too, though adults (including coaches) can help push this thing.
http://www.fieldsoffaith.com/adultleader/yourrights.php
uhhh So you can call it a "community" event because why? Because there isn't one specific church that's sponsoring it? From their webpage on "partners:"
"Kingdom" minded? Uhhh we're a democracy, not a monarchy. Is this some dominionist code? They repeat it again: "We agree to help students become lifelong followers of Jesus Christ through active involvement with a local church. We are Kingdom-minded, which serves the purpose of the Church."
I really can't wrap my mind around this doublespeak. WTF is "Kingdom-minded?" How can something be community based and student led but yet partner with a bunch of churches with the goal of getting kids to join these churches?
The part I found particularly chilling:
In case there's any doubt, they explicitly state on the "overview" page: Students invite their own classmates and teammates to meet on their school’s athletic field to hear fellow students share their faith testimonies, challenge them to read the Bible and to come to faith in Jesus Christ
This sounds like peer pressure to me. What a rotten thing to do. We had a small group in my high school. Out of like 4,000 students there were at most about 50 in the "God Squad." One of them invited me to a house meeting and it was the most laughably stupid thing I've ever seen. Apparently they've sharpened their tools and now they have "faith bands" and their own rap stars.
Student athlete doesn't really have an option to resist this pressure. I look at it like the military prosletyzing. Can a soldier really decide to be the only member of a unit not to participate in prayer and still be part of the unit? Can a college football player really be a concientous objector when the prayer starts? If you were a football player at the University of Georgia, how comfortable would you feel saying thanks but no thanks to this?
According to a spokesperson who was quoted in the local paper, I was welcome. You don't have to be an athlete to come to this. Well, duh... it's not an athletic event, it just rents an athletic field so it can have a cool name. It could just as well be a tent meeting.
They make sure that students run it, so they can split that hair and stay out of legal trouble too, though adults (including coaches) can help push this thing.
http://www.fieldsoffaith.com/adultleader/yourrights.php
•The FCA has the right to access an athletic stadium, field, and/or gym for Fields of Faith just like other community organizations.
•Coaches and teachers have the right to participate in Fields of Faith as private individuals.
•Coaches and teachers have the right to actively participate in Fields of Faith if it is characterized as a community event and not a student group meeting. This includes praying, reading the Word of God, and freely expressing their religious beliefs.
•Students have the right to pray, to read the Word of God, and to freely express their religious beliefs at Fields of Faith.
•An outside speaker has the right to lead prayer, share the Word of God, freely express his/her faith, and give an invitation.
•Students have the right to distribute Fields of Faith brochures and posters to other students on the same terms as they are permitted to distribute other literature of community organizations.
•Students have the right to wear clothing and accessories advertising Fields of Faith if clothing is permitted to contain other types of speech.
•Students have the right to use religious words on the advertisements for Fields of Faith
uhhh So you can call it a "community" event because why? Because there isn't one specific church that's sponsoring it? From their webpage on "partners:"
We desire to see athletic fields covered on one night with students challenging each other to read the Word of God and come to faith in Jesus Christ. We embrace this ministry purpose. We believe that partnering together with other ministries and churches can only strengthen the impact in communities across the country for Jesus Christ. As Kingdom-minded co-laborers, we realize that we can not do it alone, but together we commit to the following agreements:
"Kingdom" minded? Uhhh we're a democracy, not a monarchy. Is this some dominionist code? They repeat it again: "We agree to help students become lifelong followers of Jesus Christ through active involvement with a local church. We are Kingdom-minded, which serves the purpose of the Church."
I really can't wrap my mind around this doublespeak. WTF is "Kingdom-minded?" How can something be community based and student led but yet partner with a bunch of churches with the goal of getting kids to join these churches?
The part I found particularly chilling:
Fields of Faith follows the method used by King Josiah. Most modern rallies are built around entertainment with professional speakers and this tends to create a separation. Fields of Faith highlights local students in the program creating a powerful connection. The success of this event is rooted in its simplicity:
•Bring many people together at one time.
•Read Scripture and share personal testimonies.
•Be challenged by fellow students to read the Word of God and to follow Jesus Christ
In case there's any doubt, they explicitly state on the "overview" page: Students invite their own classmates and teammates to meet on their school’s athletic field to hear fellow students share their faith testimonies, challenge them to read the Bible and to come to faith in Jesus Christ
This sounds like peer pressure to me. What a rotten thing to do. We had a small group in my high school. Out of like 4,000 students there were at most about 50 in the "God Squad." One of them invited me to a house meeting and it was the most laughably stupid thing I've ever seen. Apparently they've sharpened their tools and now they have "faith bands" and their own rap stars.
Student athlete doesn't really have an option to resist this pressure. I look at it like the military prosletyzing. Can a soldier really decide to be the only member of a unit not to participate in prayer and still be part of the unit? Can a college football player really be a concientous objector when the prayer starts? If you were a football player at the University of Georgia, how comfortable would you feel saying thanks but no thanks to this?
Monday, October 10, 2011
Do the Jesus Jive
I replied to another blog about music & religiosity and it reminded me of some videos I've seen in the past. This one is typical of voudun spirit possession. (It starts at about 3:35)
Too white and male to get dressed up and let the spirit enter you through dance? Then try it the Pentecostal way:
Too hot for running around? Maybe the spirit will go easy on you and let you wander around in a haze:
If you want to do your badass Jesus Jive, just be sure some people with full control of their faculties are around to catch you when you fall, and wear your emergency alert bracelet because after Gawd knocks you on your ass, nobody will call 911 until the Jesus Jive is over:
Too white and male to get dressed up and let the spirit enter you through dance? Then try it the Pentecostal way:
Too hot for running around? Maybe the spirit will go easy on you and let you wander around in a haze:
If you want to do your badass Jesus Jive, just be sure some people with full control of their faculties are around to catch you when you fall, and wear your emergency alert bracelet because after Gawd knocks you on your ass, nobody will call 911 until the Jesus Jive is over:
Sunday, October 9, 2011
Religiosity isn't Rational
It's been proven through functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2748718/?tool=pubmed
Their findings:
This is why you can't talk believers out of their belief with reasoning. They have their emotional lives and self-image involved. You can only chip away at it. Their leaders are so resistant to anything contrary to their "facts" being taught to their children because they know that faith can't be overturned, it can only be undone in pieces. If children learn the truth about the real world, they'll have a self-image based on the real world, not on their fantasy world. They will grow up, and religion doesn't want grown-ups. Grown-ups won't get out of bed on Sunday morning and put hard-earned money into the collection plate.
They also perceive themselves in a different way than non-believers do. They use a different part of their brain when judging themselves and others. They also use different parts of their brain when imagining God's positive or negative emotions. There are two parts of the brain involved for the task of self-judgment vs. putting oneself into another's mind.
Later in life, the hippocampus shrinks more in born-agains than other believers or in non-believers. This can lead to Alzheimers. Why am I not surprised?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2748718/?tool=pubmed
Their findings:
A comparison of both stimulus categories suggests that religious thinking is more associated with brain regions that govern emotion, self-representation, and cognitive conflict, while thinking about ordinary facts is more reliant upon memory retrieval networks
This is why you can't talk believers out of their belief with reasoning. They have their emotional lives and self-image involved. You can only chip away at it. Their leaders are so resistant to anything contrary to their "facts" being taught to their children because they know that faith can't be overturned, it can only be undone in pieces. If children learn the truth about the real world, they'll have a self-image based on the real world, not on their fantasy world. They will grow up, and religion doesn't want grown-ups. Grown-ups won't get out of bed on Sunday morning and put hard-earned money into the collection plate.
They also perceive themselves in a different way than non-believers do. They use a different part of their brain when judging themselves and others. They also use different parts of their brain when imagining God's positive or negative emotions. There are two parts of the brain involved for the task of self-judgment vs. putting oneself into another's mind.
Later in life, the hippocampus shrinks more in born-agains than other believers or in non-believers. This can lead to Alzheimers. Why am I not surprised?
Thursday, September 29, 2011
Is Ghandi in Hell?
Despite what the Bible says about "salvation," apparently American Christians are more willing to forgive people for not accepting Christ than God is:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2009/0114/p02s02-usgn.html
So they've figured out what atheists already knew: sending good people to Hell is bad! But if you don't have to believe in Christ to get out of going to Hell, they why do you have to believe in Christ at all? It's not just everyday Christians anonymously admitting their disbelief, there's a controversial pastor preaching this message too: https://www.robbell.com/lovewins/. (I love his quote that Christian theology teaches that Jesus rescues his followers from God!) He wants to believe that Ghandi made it to Heaven. He also acknowledges how messed up Christianity is, and then he love-bombs.
I think the love-bombing and social network of Christianity outweighs all other considerations for a lot of Christians. I overheard a coworker say that he gets really anxious when he travels unless he knows there's a church nearby. That's crazy. If he's one of God's children and God is everywhere, what difference does it make if there's a church around the corner? The difference is that Christianity is a salve for his anxiety disorder, not a pathway to Heaven. After all, if Heaven is so great, why not just off himself and hurry upstairs before he thinks some heretical thought and ruins his chances?
Evangelicals may be their own undoing. There are so many splinter "denominations" and start-up churches founded by one person (like Rob Bell's) that people can pick and choose whichever one they like, or make up their own theology and appoint themselves the head of a new church. Any storefront will do. I've seen a jillion of these. The megachurches are the opposite end of the spectrum. They're not under the thumb of a central authority, either. Even the Southern Baptist conference is losing its grip. Mean-spirited bigotry may finally be driving believers away, but they can't let go completely, so they hook up with nicer churches. And these new churches provide what people who no longer need to feel "chosen" need for psychological fulfillment: a social network, a feeling of being loved, and some guidance on what constitutes right and wrong.
I admire the trend. These people will be easier to live with than the monsters who are trying to undermine the First Amendment, turn the military into a Christian crusader army, and set science back by hundreds of years. Now if only they will take on their nastyass cousins in court and get them to STFU about the "Christian Nation," maybe we can move on as a culture.
The most striking divergence from orthodoxy, however, was first revealed in the 2007 US Religious Landscape Survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. That comprehensive survey of 35,000 Americans found a majority of Christians saying that people of other religions can find salvation and eternal life.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2009/0114/p02s02-usgn.html
So they've figured out what atheists already knew: sending good people to Hell is bad! But if you don't have to believe in Christ to get out of going to Hell, they why do you have to believe in Christ at all? It's not just everyday Christians anonymously admitting their disbelief, there's a controversial pastor preaching this message too: https://www.robbell.com/lovewins/. (I love his quote that Christian theology teaches that Jesus rescues his followers from God!) He wants to believe that Ghandi made it to Heaven. He also acknowledges how messed up Christianity is, and then he love-bombs.
I think the love-bombing and social network of Christianity outweighs all other considerations for a lot of Christians. I overheard a coworker say that he gets really anxious when he travels unless he knows there's a church nearby. That's crazy. If he's one of God's children and God is everywhere, what difference does it make if there's a church around the corner? The difference is that Christianity is a salve for his anxiety disorder, not a pathway to Heaven. After all, if Heaven is so great, why not just off himself and hurry upstairs before he thinks some heretical thought and ruins his chances?
Evangelicals may be their own undoing. There are so many splinter "denominations" and start-up churches founded by one person (like Rob Bell's) that people can pick and choose whichever one they like, or make up their own theology and appoint themselves the head of a new church. Any storefront will do. I've seen a jillion of these. The megachurches are the opposite end of the spectrum. They're not under the thumb of a central authority, either. Even the Southern Baptist conference is losing its grip. Mean-spirited bigotry may finally be driving believers away, but they can't let go completely, so they hook up with nicer churches. And these new churches provide what people who no longer need to feel "chosen" need for psychological fulfillment: a social network, a feeling of being loved, and some guidance on what constitutes right and wrong.
I admire the trend. These people will be easier to live with than the monsters who are trying to undermine the First Amendment, turn the military into a Christian crusader army, and set science back by hundreds of years. Now if only they will take on their nastyass cousins in court and get them to STFU about the "Christian Nation," maybe we can move on as a culture.
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Richard Dawkins vs William Lane Craig: Not Happening (YAY)
Richard Dawkins has decided not to debate William Lane Faith-is-properly-basic Craig, and good for him. Of course, Christians are taking this as a sign of weakness:
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9901617876.html
Dawkins has already shot WLC down:
I agree completely not just about WLC, but about the average believer: it's an emotional cause for them, not rational at all and therefore, not subject to debate or rational discourse of any kind. They appeal to emotion at every turn. In essence they believe because it fulfills an emotional need for them, and they don't want people saying their fairy tales are false.
I first heard of WLC at the blog of Randall Rauser, who has an advanced degree inbullshit apologetics, and seemed to think that his vapid responses to his atheist responders actually had merit. Failing to convince us that love of poetry, love of love, and nice feelings in general are sufficient to justify faith in his deity, he would cite William Lane Craig and another loser by the name of Alvin Plantinga.
Their main argument seems to be, it's nice to believe in something nice, so it is therefore true. Of course, I got that second-hand because if their fanboy, Randy, couldn't sell them to me I didn't think it was worth reading their stuff. I did watch some of WLC's speeches and debates on youtube and I just came away shaking my head. He really sounds like a boxer on the ropes, defending religion on the basis of intuition, and yet people say he's a great debater.
About debates... apparently you can win or lose debates based on parrying and thrusts of a verbal sort, kind of. So if you throw out a bunch of thrusts and your opponent only handles a few of them and sidesteps the rest in the interest of time, that is apparently a "victory." Waving your sword in air and never actually nicking or stabbing your opponent somehow makes points.
I think the wins and losses of debates should depend on the number of onlookers whose minds have been changed. You could do before and after surveys of the audience, and any nudge in the average score would determine the victor. What seems to be going on in the theist-atheist debate scoring is that people who belonged to debate clubs in high school extrapolate their useless exercises into the adult world of deciding what to believe. This goes for partisans on both sides, most of whom coincidentally give the "win" to their side but who sometimes give it to the other side. If you are an atheist, and you watch a debate between an atheist & a theist and you are still an atheist at the end of it, the theist loses! It doesn't matter if someone lost 'points.'
Dawkins going to an evangelical college to debate during an evangelical convention against their biggest idol would indeed be a waste of time due to cognitive dissonance. The audience would be packed with people who have made it their life's work to bullshit themselves into believing that believing is good (forget whether it's true). Cognitive dissonance goes like this: I invested a helluva lot into this Christianity thing, so it has to be true, or else I've wasted my life.
Atheists, even activist atheists, have much less investment. For one, we haven't had to lie to ourselves. For another, we haven't traded a boring life in the here-and-now for an even more boring life in the hereafter. If we're wrong, the odds of which are seriously low, there's no particular guarantee that there's an afterlife or that the Christian version is correct. WE haven't thrown in our lot with one fairy tale over all others. Most of us are familiar with several fairy tales. Losing out on the Christian one is a one-in-several shot, versus the Christian wager which is all-or-nothing. I've led a relatively good life, so if Buddhism is true, I might come back as a richer, whiter, beautiful woman with a kickin body.
Christians, on the other hand, have been arrogant in believing their selfish theology is correct, so they might come back as cockroaches or tsetse flies.
Back to the "properly basic" idea. WLC says that belief in a god is "properly basic," which in philosophical terms basically means it gets a pass. These beliefs don't need evidence, but they do. And they're valid unless they're not. Grab some dramamine and check out his podcast on "properly basic" crap:
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9901617876.html
Craig, one of the nation's leading Christian apologists, has debated many atheists on the rationality of faith and the existence of God including Sam Harris, Bart Ehrman and Richard Taylor. His upcoming United Kingdom tour has evidently intimidated Richard Dawkins as he has continually refused to debate Craig when he visits his home turf this October.
Recently, Polly Toynbee, president of the British Humanist Association, also pulled out of a scheduled debate with Craig on the existence of God. A war of words has broken out between Dawkins and his critics, who see his refusal to take on the American academic as a sign that he may be losing his nerve.
Famous atheist Sam Harris once described Craig as "the one Christian apologist who has put the fear of God into many of my fellow atheists."
Dawkins has already shot WLC down:
I agree completely not just about WLC, but about the average believer: it's an emotional cause for them, not rational at all and therefore, not subject to debate or rational discourse of any kind. They appeal to emotion at every turn. In essence they believe because it fulfills an emotional need for them, and they don't want people saying their fairy tales are false.
I first heard of WLC at the blog of Randall Rauser, who has an advanced degree in
Their main argument seems to be, it's nice to believe in something nice, so it is therefore true. Of course, I got that second-hand because if their fanboy, Randy, couldn't sell them to me I didn't think it was worth reading their stuff. I did watch some of WLC's speeches and debates on youtube and I just came away shaking my head. He really sounds like a boxer on the ropes, defending religion on the basis of intuition, and yet people say he's a great debater.
About debates... apparently you can win or lose debates based on parrying and thrusts of a verbal sort, kind of. So if you throw out a bunch of thrusts and your opponent only handles a few of them and sidesteps the rest in the interest of time, that is apparently a "victory." Waving your sword in air and never actually nicking or stabbing your opponent somehow makes points.
I think the wins and losses of debates should depend on the number of onlookers whose minds have been changed. You could do before and after surveys of the audience, and any nudge in the average score would determine the victor. What seems to be going on in the theist-atheist debate scoring is that people who belonged to debate clubs in high school extrapolate their useless exercises into the adult world of deciding what to believe. This goes for partisans on both sides, most of whom coincidentally give the "win" to their side but who sometimes give it to the other side. If you are an atheist, and you watch a debate between an atheist & a theist and you are still an atheist at the end of it, the theist loses! It doesn't matter if someone lost 'points.'
Dawkins going to an evangelical college to debate during an evangelical convention against their biggest idol would indeed be a waste of time due to cognitive dissonance. The audience would be packed with people who have made it their life's work to bullshit themselves into believing that believing is good (forget whether it's true). Cognitive dissonance goes like this: I invested a helluva lot into this Christianity thing, so it has to be true, or else I've wasted my life.
I squish them to give them a second chance |
Christians, on the other hand, have been arrogant in believing their selfish theology is correct, so they might come back as cockroaches or tsetse flies.
Back to the "properly basic" idea. WLC says that belief in a god is "properly basic," which in philosophical terms basically means it gets a pass. These beliefs don't need evidence, but they do. And they're valid unless they're not. Grab some dramamine and check out his podcast on "properly basic" crap:
Monday, September 26, 2011
Gideon Bibles in the Doctor's Office Waiting Room
Yes. There were Gideon Bibles on the waiting room side tables at my doctor's office. My doctor is leaving this practice and I am following him to his new practice, but I've been sick for a few days and I really needed to see him today.
But since I didn't plan to stay with the practice I didn't mind being seen to open the Bibles and write in them. But since I didn't have to wait very long I only had time to write under the Gideon imprint:
"Purveyors of Bullshit"
When I find them in hotel rooms I have more fun with them, but I had to settle for this.
But seriously, WTF? Why would they allow this? It's a general practice, not an emergency room!
Oh yeah, because this is fucking Indiana. Fucking insane.
But since I didn't plan to stay with the practice I didn't mind being seen to open the Bibles and write in them. But since I didn't have to wait very long I only had time to write under the Gideon imprint:
"Purveyors of Bullshit"
When I find them in hotel rooms I have more fun with them, but I had to settle for this.
But seriously, WTF? Why would they allow this? It's a general practice, not an emergency room!
Oh yeah, because this is fucking Indiana. Fucking insane.
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